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Poster: rastamon Date: Sep 19, 2008 7:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Speaking of fundraising... NON partisan

fuck the common people, those who can afford 25K dinners just want a piece of the porkbarrel. Prepare for a new and more dangerous bunch in the White House.
The Market meltdown timebomb worked...who needs an October surprize now? What counts is to spread rumours & lie's and have a free (gag-gag)press to only report that.
Scapgoatism is the game that demoncraps have mastered.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Sep 19, 2008 9:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Speaking of fundraising... NON partisan

" Scapgoatism is the game that demoncraps have mastered. "

Scapgoatism is the game that neocons and right wing tools have mastered.

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Poster: Edsel Date: Sep 19, 2008 9:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Speaking of fundraising... NON partisan

Thanks for the input Pee Wee.



I know you are but what am I ?

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Poster: rastamon Date: Sep 19, 2008 9:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Speaking of fundraising... NON partisan

LOL! thanks for my first good laugh of today!

..."no-no-no, it's the US of KKK"
Hannity was reporting on that racist-retard-crackpot in 2007.



Joe Biden for President, soon after the selection.
I hope that Barack is dewelt with

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 19, 2008 9:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Speaking of fundraising... NON partisan

From America's Best Christian:

Last night, I interviewed Sarah Palin for "The No Sin Zone." And it didn't go well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtJ6nPxv018

Frankly, the ratio of pit-bull to Mary Kay was shockingly steep. Coming off her smarmily inept ABC interview with "Charlie" (a name now welded to my consciousness, as if by a nervously wielded pneumatic rivet gun), I suspect Sarah thought she was in for the type of pragmatic obliviousness that springs from a "Winning First" approach to facts. And the notion that reality should spring from party politics, not the other way around. Truly, it's been a long time -- OK, 4 years! -- since a politician so ruthlessly benefited from "values voters" turning a carefully choreographed once-censorious, now-blind eye to any value other than not spending the next four years with the name of a loser on their bumper.

Fortunately, I have the gift of discerning coy sins less careful Christians -- and my inattentive Savior -- routinely overlook. And as founder of Bringing Integrity To Christian Homemakers, one sin pings my values radar louder than an incoming sortie of foul smelling demons: Narcissistic parents who irresponsibly spit out babies they have neither the interest nor time to care about. That's the problem with people who regard birth as simply the end of a pregnancy, rather than the beginning of a life. Birth marks the start of work, not a self-congratulatory furlough. Absent through either a preoccupation with stoking a ravenous blast furnace of an ego (Mrs. Palin) or simply because he'd rather be fishing (Mr. Palin), the Palins selfishly make a shambles of their children's lives. Drugs, sex, alcohol, vendetta's and arrests! Honestly, it all sounds a bit like Gossip Girl, only in a pioneer setting with a wardrobe by Sears.

What is most telling about all this is not that abandoned teenagers sometimes make bad choices, but that they are not always the most irresponsible people in the house. Mr. & Mrs. Palin responded to missteps by teenage strangers in their house by shipping them both off to live with someone with more time or patience for undergoing the bother of raising children. The daughter was sent to live with an aunt. And the son was jetted off to live with a family in Michigan! Honestly, do any of you believe American jobs would be safe under a President Palin, someone who outsources even her own parenting?

Well, the gals at B.I.T.C.H. don't go for that slapdash approach to the well being of America's children! We are rather concerned that Sarah is running as a "Hockey Mom" and a "PTA Mom," but when anyone dares to look into what type of "Mom" she actually is, we are told that her children's lives -- and the trail of discarded beer and OxyContin bottles behind them -- are private, personal and not to be used for politics. That is, of course, unless their "Me First!" mother needs them as casting call props, either in photo ops or her endless, shamelessly opportunistic reminders that her eldest son has enlisted -- and they had a "ceremony" in case the point was lost. Given the arresting circumstances that provoked such an enlistment (probably greeted with the same enthusiasm Bristol's boyfriend is now regarding being drafted into marriage), you would think Sarah would at least have the grace to blush each time she merchandises either her parenthood or patriotism.

So Close to Jesus, I Can Flirt Because He Knows it Isn't Going Anywhere,

Mrs. Betty Bowers

America's Best Christian

www.bettybowers.com

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Sep 19, 2008 10:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Speaking of fundraising... NON partisan

hey BD

speaking of the Palins - I thought it was illegal to not show up after a subpeona. What's the point of one if it's optional?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 20, 2008 9:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A little research for JOTS

So, I was curious as to what potential penalty, if any, the First Dud faces for ignoring the subpoena. Not a hell of a lot, and who knows if your pols would do anything. Here's the applicable Alaskan statutes (haven't looked at any cases interpreting/applying the same):

AS 24.25.030. Disobeying Subpoena or Refusing to Testify.
If a witness neglects or refuses to obey a subpoena, or neglects or refuses to testify or to produce upon reasonable notice any material and proper books, papers, or documents in the possession or under the control of the witness, the senate or house of representatives may by resolution entered on its journal commit the witness for contempt. If contempt is committed before a committee, the committee shall report the contempt to the senate or house of representatives, as the case may be, for such action as may be considered necessary.

[So, they "may" by resolution, if they have the votes, commit him for contempt. If they do, then:]

AS 24.25.040. Arrest For Disobedience to Subpoena.

A witness who neglects or refuses to attend in obedience to subpoena may be arrested by the sergeant-at-arms and brought before the senate or house of representatives, as the case may be. The only warrant or authority necessary authorizing arrest is a copy of a resolution of the senate or house of representatives signed by the president of the senate or speaker of the house of representatives, as the case may be, and countersigned by the secretary of the senate or the clerk of the house of representatives, as the case may be.

[So, if they actually seek to punish him, and get the votes and necessary signatures (how likely?) what happens? Not much - especially if she is in power and gets him another plum job; and you can bet that those looking to win as well as get more of the crude will take care of him. Side note: Is Levi the biggest opponent of a Palin win? Poor SOB]

AS 24.25.080. Punishment For Disobedience to Subpoena or Refusal to Testify.
A person subpoenaed as provided in this chapter who fails, neglects, or refuses to attend at the time and place where the person's presence is required, or fails, neglects, or refuses to produce the books, papers, or instruments or other evidence designated in the subpoena, or who having attended in response to the subpoena, or having appeared voluntarily, refuses to testify as to any material and proper matter within the power of the senate, house of representatives, or a committee to investigate, upon conviction, is punishable by a fine of not less than $100 nor more than $500, or by imprisonment for not less than 30 days nor more than six months.

[The First Dud could do the time standing on his head, and they'd never do it. Just the public embarassment of a finding and fine. So much for their full cooperation. The cover up is always worst. Have no idea if there was any wrongdoing, but it doesn't pass the "smell" test and the bottom line is McCain has shown a shocking lack of judgment by this first "most important" decision of his campaign. if this is any insight into how he'll govern, and it is, we're headed for more trouble. Not saying anyone else has or is "the" answer, but Chuck Hagel has it right about the Palin selection. I know, he's kind of the GOP Lieberman these days.)] Gigolo McCain and Caribou Barbie - seems like a bad reality show, not a Presidential ticket.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 19, 2008 10:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Speaking of fundraising... NON partisan

Please direct that question to Karl Rove because even after a federal judge says he's not protected by any executive privilege he continues to ignore the subpoena issued by congress. But then again, why should I be surprised that he thinks he's still working for the white house as a "commentator" for Faux News.

It's been fun trying to explain to my seven year old how adults really don't have to follow the rules.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Sep 19, 2008 12:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Speaking of fundraising... NON partisan

Explain it with the other talks about drugs, speeding and other things that I am sure you never broke a law to do.

Explain that you were perfect and then judge others.

Karl rove is not on the ballot. Wrangler Charlie is not on the ballot. The couple of representatives from florida who use this state's tax benefits to homestead but live in maryland and elsewhere are not running. The other florida politician who is not running but has a son who just got busted for smuggling illegal immigrants and meth across the border is not running.

Rove angle deflected, bring on something that actually has to do with the campaigns in question.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Sep 19, 2008 12:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Speaking of fundraising... NON partisan

" Rove angle deflected, bring on something that actually has to do with the campaigns in question. "

If you had actually read the post instead of only being busy with your own tirade you would have seen it was in reference to me asking a lawyer a question about law - the question is how is it allowed to ignore a subpeona. Which is what the first DUD ( Todd Palin )as MY friends call him here did and as BD pointed out Rove has been doing as well.I don't recall that this particular conversation had anything to do with directly talking about the campaign.

So maybe you should retract your bullshit but you wont

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Sep 19, 2008 12:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Speaking of fundraising... NON partisan

Sorry, I thought you threw the boogeyman word rove in there to draw sympathy to your argument, an attempt to show someone in a bad light for your own political gain. I am too busy answering all the comments and trying to work to read into it that far.

Sorry I mistook your lawyer inquiry or whatever it was for a partisan attack on someone I think is the only hope to stop someone else from gaining power that shouldn't.

I will try and read it again, although I should just log off and forget trying to argue with people who are driven mostly be emotion instead of logic. It's been a busy morning here and no one will change the other person's mind anyway. I just hate to see people think that everyone agrees with them when half the folks don't.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 19, 2008 1:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Speaking of fundraising... NON partisan

i think that last point has been clearly established in recent weeks.

I just want to know where I can get my "The Sole Remaining Allman Brothers for Obama" t-shirt.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Sep 19, 2008 1:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Speaking of fundraising... NON partisan

Now that was funny.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Sep 19, 2008 1:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Speaking of fundraising... NON partisan

Well if I am wrong about something I'll admit it... unlike some folks that have been wrong about things like the surge...

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Poster: Sluggo714 Date: Sep 19, 2008 2:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Speaking of fundraising... NON partisan

Wow- politics! It's everywhere man- even here on the archive.

What I have to ask is: do you really think you are right about the "surge"? Surely if it really "worked" the Pretendent would be talking about how stable Iraq has become and we'll be able to bring the boys home any day now.

In point of fact the whole Iraq fiasco has become a stain on our nation- from the deceptions that started the bloodshed to the torture chambers and civilian death counts. Seriously, what else can be said when the bUShA turns Iraq into a worse place than it was under Saddam Hussein?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 19, 2008 12:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Speaking of fundraising... NON partisan

Whatever I may or may have not done, I've never wllfully ignored a subpoena and/or a court order. Then again, I've also never run for public office and put my family/life out in the public eye.

At least we can lay to rest the idea that the GOP is the party of law and order (and I'm not claiming the donkeys are either).

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Sep 19, 2008 12:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Speaking of fundraising... NON partisan

Faux news, nice use of your master's cliche's!

Been watching a bit much of MSNBC there?

At least they allow opposing points of view, no matter how misguided.

Karl rove is not running, bush is not running, hannity is not running. Check the ballot closely and you will see I am right.

Keep grabbing for straws, this whole troopergate thing was a joke and so will be any attempt to smear a woman VP which all the feminist hate because she throws a big old wrench in their oppressed women bid. At least obama's rate of pay for female staff is 1% higher than the 77% national average versus pay for men. Change we can believe in.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Sep 19, 2008 7:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Speaking of fundraising... NON partisan

Watch the markets, watch the reactions by the candidates, read their economic plans and if obama wins I heard iceland is nice.